Ama ([info]city_glitter) wrote,
@ 2005-07-06 20:16:00
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Okay, it has also been brought to my attention that a lot of people went to [info]foxfur's journal and completely ripped into her for the evidence she posted discrediting my story.

To be honest, I expected everyone to go read that post and to believe her. All of her evidence is well-thought-out, well-researched, and makes perfect sense. Furthermore, it took a great deal of courage for her to report the wrong of something she considered a close friend had done. I didn't expect for anyone not to believe her, and certainly didn't expect anyone to rip into her, flame her, and make her life Hell about it.

It's pointless to say that I didn't tell or encourage anyone to do so, because this entire problem was caused by my thoughtlessness- I might as well have. I also don't think it means much when I say I'm sorry, but I'm saying it anyway- M, I'm sorry. There is no justification.


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[info]sugardeath_net
2005-07-06 07:19 pm UTC (link)
Wow. I just read through your AIM conversation with Foxfur over on her LJ. I can honestly say, you are EVIL. Sorry, PURE EVIL. I am fucking glad I didn't donate money, let alone even feel sorry for you. My best wishes to Foxfur for what you put her through. If I were in her position, I'd have done a LOT more. Thanks for showing us how EVIL people can truly be. Thoughtlessness, as you say, is NO excuse. Your stupid little game cost you one of your friends and the trust of hundreds. I hope people press charges against you for conning them out of their money. Whether you return it or not does not excuse the fact that you commited a CRIME.

You're sick. FUCKING SICK.

I can safely say, I HATE you. And I can also safely say, you are the FIRST and only person right now that I actually hate.

What a fuck up you are.

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If she can do this,what else is she capable of?
[info]kittyofthesea
2005-07-06 07:23 pm UTC (link)
My thoughts exactly.I hope they press charges and take away her cat.Lord knows if she has some kind of off the wall munchhousen syndrome where she abuses her own cat for attention.

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Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]friendpersonpat, 2005-07-06 07:59 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]kittyofthesea, 2005-07-06 08:01 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]psiphre, 2005-07-07 03:12 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]romann, 2005-07-07 10:45 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]scarlete, 2005-07-07 11:55 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]psiphre, 2005-07-07 07:25 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]romann, 2005-07-08 05:50 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - (Anonymous), 2005-07-09 06:10 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - (Anonymous), 2007-04-13 08:40 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]austeresilence, 2005-07-10 05:28 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]kittyofthesea, 2005-07-07 01:55 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]sebatical, 2005-07-07 05:35 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]kittyofthesea, 2005-07-07 01:48 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]sebatical, 2005-07-07 03:35 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]kittyofthesea, 2005-07-07 05:07 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]sebatical, 2005-07-07 05:13 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]kittyofthesea, 2005-07-07 05:20 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]sebatical, 2005-07-07 05:22 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]prodiguy, 2005-07-08 05:40 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]sebatical, 2005-07-08 07:43 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]paratrupa, 2005-07-11 12:23 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]tabernak, 2005-07-09 05:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]thingamabobby, 2005-07-10 04:49 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]vcv, 2005-07-10 11:37 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]lilibeth, 2005-07-11 07:33 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]blackwaltzno2_, 2005-07-30 05:54 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]noize, 2008-06-16 11:36 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]blackwaltzno2_, 2008-06-18 04:38 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]xzeroblue, 2008-09-12 11:00 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]belindashort, 2005-07-10 09:29 am UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]grace_batmonkey, 2005-07-15 10:15 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: If she can do this,what else is she capable of? - [info]delicatefairy, 2007-01-21 11:03 pm UTC (Expand)
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Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - [info]doberwoman, 2005-07-08 03:37 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - (Anonymous), 2005-07-09 10:51 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - [info]doberwoman, 2005-07-09 12:45 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - [info]jorachan, 2005-07-12 09:14 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - [info]sugardeath_net, 2005-07-19 05:56 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - [info]delicatefairy, 2007-01-21 11:05 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - [info]springgirl, 2005-09-11 05:56 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Dear disgusting excuse for a human. - (Anonymous), 2005-09-23 11:45 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]kittyofthesea
2005-07-06 07:22 pm UTC (link)
You are disgusting.People like you who pull this crap make people not believe others than they are in trouble and need help.I feel sorry for you that you are so out of balance you have to pull such a publicity stunt as this to get yourself some attention.Put yourself through some therapy.

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Na Nigga, She Ain't Disgusting. She's Just...
[info]thyrium
2005-07-08 09:57 am UTC (link)
... A WHORE!

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Re: Na Nigga, She Ain't Disgusting. She's Just... - [info]kittyofthesea, 2005-07-08 01:48 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]_green_dreams_
2005-07-06 07:38 pm UTC (link)
Mind putting your money where your mouth is and returning the donations for the non-existent operation for the non-existent burns, as you said you would? You see, there's a Humane Society and a couple of animal hospitals in town, and actually making sure the money goes to people I trust is rather important.

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[info]copperwise
2005-07-06 08:07 pm UTC (link)
I haven't seen my money yet either.

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[info]__longingtofly
2005-07-06 07:39 pm UTC (link)
I hope you get charges pressed against you from all that you've scammed and hurt during this. I don't know much about it, but from what I know, you seem like a vile person in need a therapy. What's keeping you from doing this again? I don't believe you've learned your lesson. And it just may take getting in trouble with the police to try and teach you that. It's a sick thing you've done, and instead of proving how "wonderful" humanity is, you've shown just how evil we can be.

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wElL, i HoPe sHe gEt'S aWAy...
[info]thyrium
2005-07-08 10:02 am UTC (link)
YA'LL GOT PWND.
THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.


NIGGAS GET JACKED ALL THE TIME. NOW YA'LL CAIN STAND IT CAUSE YA'LLS GETTIN YOURS...

I GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SOME FUCKIN' DUMBASS WHITE CRACKER JACK HONKEYS SEA PICKLES...

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Re: wElL, i HoPe sHe gEt'S aWAy... - (Anonymous), 2005-07-10 03:50 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: wElL, i HoPe sHe gEt'S aWAy... - [info]jorachan, 2005-07-13 06:48 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]maudelynn
2005-07-06 07:49 pm UTC (link)
little late for that isnt it? i defended you...i didnt even know you and i defended you. I will not let your sheer cruel asshole behaviour keep me from defending people in need again but i want you to know that you definitely are on my permanent list and you better hope you are never in a situation where you need my help or help from anyone i know in the future...you will not get it... remember 6 degrees of seperation and now there are hundreds that know what a liar and cruel person you are.
the toes you step on today may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow

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[info]calantha
2005-07-06 07:56 pm UTC (link)
the toes you step on today may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow

Just had to say... I'm stealing that.

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(no subject) - [info]allblood_nroses, 2005-07-27 12:03 am UTC (Expand)
lies
[info]bridge_o_sighs
2005-07-06 08:11 pm UTC (link)
I don't know you. I don't know Foxfur. But I do know some of the people that this reached in the web called Livejournal. Real people, decent people - that took time out of their chaotic REAL lives in order to spread the word about your own situation.

You are definitely one fucked up person to do this.

The AIM discussion you had with foxfur, pretty much ruins any attempt you will ever make at apologizing. You treated foxfur like shit for daring to question you. You allowed people to trash her.

You lied.

You got caught.

You could have stopped it all much sooner than you did.

Again, you are one fucked up person.

I seriously hope that people do press charges.

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Re: lies
[info]peaseblossom03
2005-07-09 03:19 pm UTC (link)
Your icon is a fucking scream, I just had to say.

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Wow....
(Anonymous)
2005-07-06 08:12 pm UTC (link)
You're fucking pathetic. Get your head out of your ass and get some self respect. I'm guessing you're the type that has no clue what the phrase "person responsibility" means. I'm glad I did some google searches before buying into your totally unbelievable story.

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Dumb fucking cunt whores of the world unite!
(Anonymous)
2005-07-09 10:23 am UTC (link)
You are easily the most pathetic, waste of space human being I have ever seen. The only answer for you is to consider suicide. If your mother had aborted you the world would be a better place, but as it stands, the best you can do is find your way into a wood chipper. You lame, sad, pathetic little whore.

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Re: Dumb fucking cunt whores of the world unite! - [info]jorachan, 2005-07-13 06:53 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]sorchar
2005-07-06 08:18 pm UTC (link)
You know, if this really was an "experiment", there was no need for you to start taking Paypal donations. I'm thinking someone was about to report you and you chickened out. Thanks again for making so many of us look and feel like utter fools. Thanks, too, for making a shitty day even worse. I hope this comes home to you in the biggest way possible.

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[info]medancer
2005-07-06 09:52 pm UTC (link)
City Glitter never asked for paypal donations. It was suggested, and she resisted, at first.

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[info]luleh
2005-07-06 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Now you're blaming people who donated to you, thus helping to prove your little point, for not believing Foxfur?

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(Anonymous)
2005-07-06 08:22 pm UTC (link)
Thoughtless, eh?

How about 'brainless'.

Or perhaps, 'lacking in conscience'.

Does 'a total absence of sincerity, integrity, and all the things that make a human being worth actually *caring* about', perhaps, ring a bell?

You preyed on the nightmares of animal lovers everywhere, all for a quick buck and a nice big fat pity-wanking? It reeked from the start. How the hell can you be so worried about a cat (whose existence I sincerely doubt, now) when you're around your LJ and commenting every 5 minutes to every person who would stop and listen?

I hope you never sleep soundly again.

Seek psychiatric help immediately.

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[info]kaleidoscopeeye
2005-07-06 08:28 pm UTC (link)
I have to say as an outsider looking in that your numerous "I am sorry's" in this post and the previous are hollow words. Someone with such little respect for others can not fully understand the meaning of the words.

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(Anonymous)
2005-07-10 12:30 pm UTC (link)
Your dog is really cute. <3

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[info]kaleidoscopeeye
2005-07-06 08:30 pm UTC (link)
You should read the children's book about the little boy who cried wolf. Things have a way of coming back around to bite you in the ass.

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[info]azoth
2005-07-07 01:23 am UTC (link)
My thoughts exactly. The fable sums the situation up very nicely.

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[info]thehellkitty
2005-07-06 08:32 pm UTC (link)
I replied to your last post, and I have to say, you can fuck yourself.

My friend Maddy lost everything she had this summer. EVERYTHING. Her house burned to the ground.
And one of her cats died.

Not once did she ask for money.
Not once.
Someone else collected money for all of the people living there.
The rest of us gave her things she needed.

You have taken from others.
I really hope someone gives you a huge slap of reality and a swift kick in your ass.
I also hope you go to jail.

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[info]lunarwhirl
2005-07-10 01:57 am UTC (link)
Give your friend Maddy a hug from me. What a brave, wonderful human being.
This has made me regain some of my faith in people. *hugs*

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[info]ladyjaida
2005-07-06 08:38 pm UTC (link)
LOL but ... you're full of bullshit? Reading the IM conversation that this poor, poor [info]foxfur girl has a link to her on her journal and it becomes more and more apparent that you don't really have the capacity to be sorry because you don't really have the capacity to think about anyone but yourself. There's no "worst part" about your behavior here -- it absolutely beggars belief -- but I have to say that way up there on your bullshitometer in this round is your apology system. Your apology means nothing, and that you offer it in this mincing and simpering way is a further example of its invalidity. It is void of meaning.

I mean, granted, you used the prop of a cat, which is manipulative and intentionally so. That sucks.

And then, granted, you used the vast anonymity of the internet to reduce kind people, good people, people willing without knowing you to help you, to something subhuman; you erased their humanity by allowing yourself not to think of them as persons, as persons with faces and feelings. That also sucks.

And then, granted, you explained it as an experiment, which is just downright psychotic; and you can't realize how downright psychotic that is. And that sucks.

But what I keep coming back to is this IM conversation, and the way you guilt your friend, or try to, into making her feel as if she's the betrayer, as if she's the heartless one, as if she's gone crazy. And you do it for a significant amount of time, which means you're not doing it by accident and you're not doing it because you're caught in a lie and panicking like a fucking animal. You're sticking to your guns. You have time to stop it but you don't stop it. And that fucking really sucks.

So, in conclusion, you are full of bullshit. The only thing there is to say is that I am so, so sorry to the people who knew you and who trusted you, and I only hope they can find a new faith in humanity which you so curiously destroyed in a combination of carelessness and meticulousness, of flippancy and cruelty.

I still cannot believe that you actually did this. I still cannot really express how shocked and appalled I am. What the hell. Just what the hell.

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[info]rm
2005-07-06 08:56 pm UTC (link)
and the way you guilt your friend, or try to, into making her feel as if she's the betrayer, as if she's the heartless one, as if she's gone crazy.

This is what emotional abusers do, and that's what this is.

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[info]starfish2thesea
2005-07-06 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Wow, pleas for help for you had been plastered all over my Flist, and I dismissed them with skepticism. I'm not glad I was right to be so cynical but I'm glad I'm not a sucker.

I hope that the tears your father cried over the "good of humanity" were worth the tears that others have cried for the injustice you have done for it.

You've proven to ONE person that there ARE good people out there, and proven to hundreds of good people that there are dirty rats disguised as humans. Good job.

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[info]serenecalamity
2005-07-07 12:43 am UTC (link)
Not everyone who believed this is a sucker. Anything to do with abused animals is bound to be a magnet for attention. Like [info]ladyjaida said, "I mean, granted, you used the prop of a cat, which is manipulative and intentionally so."

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[info]eibii
2005-07-06 08:46 pm UTC (link)
In your attempts to reassure yourself about the nature of humanity, you have all but shattered the ideas held precious by others.

Congratulations.

You've made me, as well as thousands of others, regret having spent a little kindness. Not even money - just words. Simple little 5-minute typings. I regret the kindness, the concern, the sound and fury that, in the end, truly did signify absolutely *nothing*.

If you wanted to know that we were going to be pissed off, when someone cried 'wolf' and we were suckered into it, and then found out the truth?

You simply could have *asked*.

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[info]chaotic_blue
2005-07-06 09:04 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, the answers people give to hypotheticals are often different from what they do in reality.

It doesn't excuse what she did, of course.

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(no subject) - [info]eibii, 2005-07-06 09:07 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]auriam, 2005-07-07 05:57 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]chaotic_blue, 2005-07-07 06:51 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]auriam, 2005-07-07 07:03 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]chaotic_blue, 2005-07-07 06:58 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]auriam, 2005-07-07 07:11 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]chthonya, 2005-07-07 06:46 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]eibii, 2005-07-07 10:18 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]_itwearsherout
2005-07-06 08:58 pm UTC (link)
Wow.

That's all I can say.

Oh and that you are one sick individual.

I felt genuinely sorry for you and your situation with your cat.

Now I feel sorry for you in a completely different way. You are pathetic.

There are other ways to reassure yourself about the integrity of others than to ask for money.

What comes around goes around.
I hope karma bites you in the ass.

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I'm Gonna Get Killed For This
[info]britmandelo
2005-07-06 09:01 pm UTC (link)
No matter what everyone says, EVERYONE who has flamed eitheryou or foxfur or anyone who has hurt anyone is guilty.

Everyone calling you scum? Filthy horrible dirtbags for not saying that you made a mistake and that they wouldn't trust you, but they did NOT have to go to the extent that many are.

You? Well, you fucked up, dear. But I understand the reasoning and I approve of proving humanity fine and dandy.

Foxfur? Feel really sorry for her. She suffered most in this, and that's a Bad Bad Thing for you to have done. But this is between you and her now, not every little person who read it. Let people argue their own battles, don't make an ass of yourself to do it for them when they DID NOT ASK YOU TO.

That goes to the people who flamed foxfur, too. >

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Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This
[info]friendpersonpat
2005-07-06 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Thank God, someone else looking at this with sanity.

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Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]britmandelo, 2005-07-06 09:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - (Anonymous), 2005-07-06 09:09 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]britmandelo, 2005-07-06 09:12 pm UTC (Expand)
Oh yeah? - (Anonymous), 2005-07-06 09:50 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Oh yeah? - [info]medancer, 2005-07-06 09:56 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Oh yeah? - [info]serenecalamity, 2005-07-07 12:49 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Oh yeah? - [info]britmandelo, 2005-07-07 06:45 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 11:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Actually, with Paypal, things can and do happen instantly. - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 05:22 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Actually, with Paypal, things can and do happen instantly. - [info]poppy_kitty, 2005-07-09 03:05 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]serenecalamity, 2005-07-07 12:48 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]britmandelo, 2005-07-07 07:01 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]leora, 2005-07-07 01:12 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]bridge_o_sighs, 2005-07-07 05:17 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]chaotic_blue, 2005-07-07 07:51 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]leora, 2005-07-07 01:24 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]chaotic_blue, 2005-07-07 01:40 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]amazingrando, 2005-07-07 07:31 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]crazykimmy, 2005-07-08 05:02 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]mollydubs, 2005-07-11 12:04 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]froggieogreen, 2005-07-07 07:31 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]britmandelo, 2005-07-07 10:59 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]crazykimmy, 2005-07-08 05:00 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 05:13 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]recidivus, 2005-07-07 08:05 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]paigedayspring, 2005-07-07 10:07 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]dew_dropped, 2005-07-07 02:26 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]britmandelo, 2005-07-07 06:57 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]jonathansfox, 2005-07-07 10:44 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]britmandelo, 2005-07-08 06:28 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - (Anonymous), 2008-05-12 03:43 am UTC (Expand)
SHE'S STILL LYING- For the last time - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 11:57 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]insaint, 2005-07-08 09:57 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]sapphire_knight, 2005-07-09 11:03 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - [info]knaughtykoolaid, 2005-07-12 08:43 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - (Anonymous), 2005-08-01 01:56 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I'm Gonna Get Killed For This - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:26 am UTC (Expand)
HAHAHAHA
[info]chaotic_blue
2005-07-06 09:02 pm UTC (link)
I'm of mixed feelings about all this.

First, I gotta say that you probably should've told Foxfur what you were doing the moment she questioned you, seeing as she was so terribly concerned about you. Similarly, you definitely should've told the people who gave you money as soon as they did, with an apology and a refund, possibly with something extra as further apologies for making them feel bad.

The thing about making all the people who viewed your LJ part of an experiment, is that generally, people being experimented on are informed of it and give their consent first. This was hurtful and amoral.

HOWEVER.

There's something in me that finds this terribly funny. I suppose it's that same side that gets its giggles from Fight Club and other dark humor. On some level, I feel as though I've just been pranked.

So how about this? Maybe your father should type in a bit of an apology to everyone as well, since I think he's as much to blame for this as you, since he allowed it to happen, and (for what little it's worth) I'll call it even on my end. ^_^ (I'm assuming, of course, that you've returned everyone's money)

Life's too short to hold grudges for something like this, IMHO. Sure, I felt terrible for you and your Schro, but I feel just as bad when observing a tragic scene in a particularly well-executed movie or book. (Probably not a healthy thing, that I can sympathize with fictional characters as much as I can for real people. *shrugs*)

Everyone's entitled to their feelings, and I'm sure everyone's hurt on some level. This is just mine.

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Re: HAHAHAHA
[info]britmandelo
2005-07-06 09:08 pm UTC (link)
I feel this general same way. Thanks for me not being the only one who agrees.

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Re: HAHAHAHA - [info]the_p0pe, 2005-07-06 10:46 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: HAHAHAHA - [info]serenecalamity, 2005-07-07 12:51 am UTC (Expand)
Re: HAHAHAHA - [info]chthonya, 2005-07-07 06:49 am UTC (Expand)
Re: HAHAHAHA - [info]chaotic_blue, 2005-07-07 07:03 am UTC (Expand)
Anybody else think she's lying about her father? - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 11:59 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Anybody else think she's lying about her father? - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 05:11 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Anybody else think she's lying about her father? - [info]chaotic_blue, 2005-07-08 05:12 am UTC (Expand)

[info]sardonicus
2005-07-06 09:05 pm UTC (link)
You deliberately chose to lie to and manipulate people you claim to be friends with, all in the name of an experiment.

You deliberately chose to come to the LJ community with what you knew was a story people would react to. I've dealt with animal burn cases, as I work in a vet practice, and people's responses upon hearing about such are invariably sympathetic.

You deliberately chose to be unwilling to accept responsibility for the consequences of your actions, placing blame on people who acted solely out of the desire to alleviate an animal's pain and an owner's worry.

You deserve to be alone, without people in your life to hurt any further than you already have.

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[info]oujoko
2005-07-06 09:10 pm UTC (link)
One of my best friends is a compulsive liar. She comes up with the most extravagent things I've ever heard. Yet at the same time, I'm still her friend. I still listen, and I still hang out with her.

Why? Because she's a good person underneath.

Every person is born with a clean slate. We're both products of our environment and of our genetics while growing up. Eventually, we become what we are today. which is why I can understand the uncontrollable urges to lie in order to appease some sort of mental 'whispering' that won't go away unless it's done -- but taking people's money is another thing entirely.

I have to admit, I saw all of these people giving you their money and couldn't help but think -- hey, guys. Why do you feel any obligation to give her money? It's called a 'payment plan'. She can get a job, and eventually pay it off. No big deal.

Still, I'm not going to leave some sort of flaming comment. You've undoubtedly been harrassed enough.

So come on, everyone. Enough. It's over.

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[info]_green_dreams_
2005-07-06 09:50 pm UTC (link)
> I have to admit, I saw all of these people giving you their money and
> couldn't help but think -- hey, guys. Why do you feel any obligation
> to give her money? It's called a 'payment plan'. She can get a job,
> and eventually pay it off. No big deal.

Because when someone is talking about her daddy not wanting to pay the bills, and how she doesn't know what to do, I have no faith that she actually can get together enough to get a job and pay it off, or that she can convince a vet of the fact that she's a reasonable enough risk to take onto a payment plan.

$5K is, in my unpleasant experience, about what you'd pay to put your cat at the vet's for a week with three operations, no serious muscle or tissue damage, no complications, 24/7 supervision, and a couple of weeks worth of antibiotics. Serious burns cost more. She talked about $5K and that sounded right--for keeping the cat alive, maybe, and doing the first operation or two. No way in hell would that come anywhere close to even covering what it would eventually cost.

My cat got sick. I had the money. (I don't have the money now, precisely because I *did* have it when my cat got sick, and it all went to the vet.) If I didn't have the money, my cat would be dead.

She sounded like she was in that situation. She did *not* sound like someone who was going to be able to pay the bill.

I cannot fault anyone for wanting to put a cat to sleep when they are facing thousands of dollars worth of bills and have no guarantee that the cat is going to be okay. I've wanted to do it myself. I have never done it. (I occasionally kick myself over this, since that beloved stupid furball of mine currently represents a year's worth of rent, and I'd really really really feel a lot safer if I had it back right now.)

I was very glad I had the choice to not kill my cat. That choice takes money. I would like it if everyone had this choice, so when I saw someone who looked like she didn't have it... well...

Obligation to her? No. Pity for her, and sympathy for the cat. So I gave her money I didn't have.

Tattoo "sucker" on my forehead.

Since you asked.

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(no subject) - [info]szara, 2005-07-13 10:21 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]bicentennial76, 2005-07-07 07:52 am UTC (Expand)
Cause and effect. - [info]dew_dropped, 2005-07-07 02:29 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]thingamabobby, 2005-07-10 05:21 am UTC (Expand)
Outrage gets an outlet.
(Anonymous)
2005-07-06 09:19 pm UTC (link)
I'd suggest anyone infuriated enough by this should probably take their money to the SPCA instead - there's enough wounded and abused cats and kittens out there, who don't have beneficiaries popping out of the woodwork for them.

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=donate

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Re: Outrage gets an outlet.
[info]auriam
2005-07-07 04:16 am UTC (link)
Actually, glad you posted this. Good point.

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Re: Outrage gets an outlet. - [info]k_rizzle, 2005-07-07 10:27 am UTC (Expand)

[info]barbthebrazen
2005-07-06 09:20 pm UTC (link)
I don't know you, I don't know your friend foxfur. I do know this...

You betrayed your friends trust in your word, you bilked thousands of dollars from these same friends, and you allowed your friends to either defend the lie, or be bullied by other friends of yours for speaking the truth. This sickens me.

I for one am disappointed and frankly, all your little "experiment" did (if that's what it really was), was cause me to question everything that I do for others. I can assure you, I will be less likely to help those in need because of what you did.

Thank you so much for making that possible and making it harder for a nice person to be nice.

Remember, you get what you give in this world. And honey, when Karma comes a knockin' you better run and hide, cause payback ain't gonna be pretty or easy.

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Now wait just a minute...
[info]errekshunn
2005-07-09 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Hey, I'd like to say that that is complete bullshit.
I'm a nice guy, and I've gotten fucked for it more times than I'd care to count. Still, I will do what I feel is right, and I'm not going to let people like City_Glitter ruin that for me. If we just decide to stop doing what is right, then we let the assholes of the world win.

If getting burned is all it takes for you to stop being nice, then you probably weren't a very nice person to begin with. I don't want to be a jerk, but do not pretend to blame your future unwillingness to do the right thing on the actions of this confused little girl. Do not give her that much power over you!

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Re: Now wait just a minute... - [info]barbthebrazen, 2005-07-09 09:08 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Now wait just a minute... - (Anonymous), 2005-07-11 03:13 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]bellekitsune
2005-07-06 09:26 pm UTC (link)
wow I was actually going to donate money...
i can't believe there are people like you in the world

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[info]bicentennial76
2005-07-07 07:53 am UTC (link)
you didnt know there were people like this in the world? Have you been living under a rock???

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Don't Be Sarcastic - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 04:58 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Don't Be Sarcastic - [info]bellekitsune, 2005-07-08 09:55 am UTC (Expand)
I WISH I'd given money - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 12:00 am UTC (Expand)

[info]toydivision
2005-07-06 09:29 pm UTC (link)
It would be wonderful if you were put in jail for this.

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[info]flemco
2005-07-06 11:13 pm UTC (link)
WAH WAH WAH I FELL FOR HER BULLSHIT WAH WAH I REFUSE TO MERELY ADMIT I WAS A DUMBASS AND CRAWL AWAY WITH WHAT DIGNITY I HAVE LEFT WAH WAH.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 01:43 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 11:03 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-10 03:52 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]loveanddarkness, 2005-07-07 01:22 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 10:19 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-10 03:57 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]loveanddarkness, 2005-07-11 05:35 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]xdreadxdolliex, 2005-07-08 09:07 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-06-22 09:47 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]xdreadxdolliex, 2007-06-22 09:53 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]xdreadxdolliex, 2007-06-22 09:59 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-07-10 11:18 pm UTC (Expand)
I AGREE 100% - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 12:02 am UTC (Expand)

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